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I am a 30 year old female that has just had a laparoscopy to remove endometriosis 7 weeks ago. it all began when I began spotting then developed pain esp. on my left lower abdomen. The pain is sharp, like a cutting and stinging. I then miscarried and I still have constant pain. Originally doctors thought I had a hernia- had abdominal wall ultrasound- found nothing. Then colonoscopy- all clear. Then finallt the laparoscopy which found endo. which would explain the miscarriage. But still have the same pain that begain 6 months ago. No urinary track infection either. Periods are very painful but not too heavy but the sharp burning pain is constant. Feels like something is pushing my stomach and onto my bladder after a meal or a big glass of water. Now have also had a MRI abdomen scan and found nothing? So far doctors and specialist are puzzled. Gyno believes getting pregnant will stop pain- but what if it is something else? Please help.

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my guess is that there is still some endo tissue and what he did remove wasnt causing you pain (yet). Pregnancy will take care of the pain becoz you will be getting lots of progesterone, however after the pregnancy pain will return. See a gyn who is willing to work with you and natural methods of endo control such as natural progesterone cream. Synthetics have an awful reputation along with birth control pills for endo becoz they coz estrogen dominance (which is what caused the endo in the first place). Good book is Natural Hormone Balance by Uzzi Reiss - appendix even gives help in finding the right gyn

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I don't want to scare you but most likely the Endometriosis has come back or the surgeon who did the Laparoscopy did not get it all. The reason why I say this is because I went to a very good surgeon. He was even on 60 minutes several years ago & even works at a teaching hospital in Florida (He has been practicing I think it was since 1974 or something like that). He immediately diagnosed me with Endometriosis with one consult & they had me set up for a Laparoscopy (Laser Ablation) within 2 weeks because I was in so much pain. He did an excellent job & I was back to work within no time. However, my pain started coming slowly back again in about 2 months & got worse & worse from there. I ended up having to go to Georgia to get excision surgery. When that surgeon went in to do the surgery pratically all the spots that was excised from the first surgeon had grown back (I know because I have the pictures from both surgeries). I had my Laparoscopy (Laser Ablation) in April 2006 & my excision surgery November 2006. The surgeon in Georgia said that most surgeons miss Endometriosis (If they are not specifically trained to do that type of surgery) on the bowel, bladder, etc. And, Laser Ablation usually does not work for very long & because of this they only laser the top layer & do not get deep enough causing it to show back up sometimes as early as 3 months (I was one of the ones where it came back quicker). I honestly think that everyone should definitely have excision surgery (Of course if you have the insurance to be able to do that---I had to fight with my insurance to have it) to get rid of all the Endometriosis. Of course there is still a 10% it will come back. But I think that percentage far outweighs the Laser Ablation. Also, if the surgery goes well (of course you want a very good surgeon) it will not come back for at least 5 years or so. I think those chances are very good.

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What was the name of your surgeon in Georgia? How did you get his name and where did you learn about uterine excision? Thanks a lot - I'm in a similar boat.

[acuann]

endometriosis is hard to get rid of, and I also agree with the next to last post - it often comes back. Some think endo could be caused by candida overload - worth checking into and see if it "fits". Please visit www.candidasupport.org and www.wholeapproach.com for info on candida.

I recommend acupuncture to help with the endo and especially the pain. If you can find one who also specializes in Chinese herbal medicine it would be very helful. I have treated women in my clinic with severe endo symptoms and it has been very successful! Please consider this as a viable treatment. To find one near you please visit www.acufinder.com and type in your zip code.

Lots of luck.
DOM

[ralph]

Very good points, just above. Balanced organs provide appropriate amounts of progesterone compared to estrogen.

Endometriosis is actually estrogen dominance - not enough progesterone
compared to estrogen. The ratio is most important.

Endo reappears because the cause was not dealt with, only the symptoms were. Systemic Formulas of Ogden, UT make some excellent formulas to help organs heal the best they can. Call them to find a practitioner near you.

And accuann you may appreciate this - Systemic Formulas were developed by a "Doc" Wheelwright that was the first to measure resonant frequencies, or vibration rates, of organs. He then blended herbs to match the frequencies of specific organs to essentially provide a "blueprint" for the organ to model itself after. I would really like to see acupuncture and Systemics used at the same time to see if and how much the healing rate and quality of healing are made more effective being used together.

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I went to the Center for Endometriosis Care (CEC) in Atlanta, Georgia. My surgery was done by Dr. Sinervo (there is also Dr. Albee). You can find it pretty easily on the web. There are a few (only a few) other doctors in the state that do excision surgery. There is one in California & one in New York (& a few more that I cannot remember right now). If you need to know I will find out for you & let you know. I have my hypothesis myself & I too think that too much yeast in the body has something to do with contributing to Endometriosis. I do feel though that you should have all the implants excised first & then go (immediately afterwards) on a yeast free diet. And, remember the reason (or at least this is my hypothesis) a person gets Endometriosis (they of course have several theories right now) is because of too much Estrogen. And, too much Estrogen is because of too little Progesterone. This is all regulated by the ovaries. Therefore, someone having all the problems could have an underlying problem with their adrenal gland, pituitary gland, thyroid gland, parathyroid gland, liver, etc. And of course you could be having problems with these glands too due to a yeast overload. Yeast can cause you to get rid of alot of your good bacteria which completely messes up your whole body & organs. I am not a doctor though. I am however trying my best to find out what causes Endometriosis. I do know they also think that most who have it have an immune system problem to begin with & might have other underlying diseases or disorders too. Another thing, I would advise (Unless you have to have it in rare circumstances) against the HRT for Endometriosis. I have heard really bad things about the side effects & after effects that they can cause. That is why I chose excision surgery instead of Hormone Replacement Therapy.

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http://www.bpharmacysolutions.com/hormone/overview.asp

This is a compounding pharmacy that after a phone consultation will send you a saliva test to detrmine the level of your hormones. Once it is tested, they suggest a formula for you individually. You can then bring this to your gyn for an RX and then you send it back to them. If your gyn won't, then they have a list of of doctors they work with that you can go to. You are then sent bioidentical hormones that are NOT synthetic and balanced for your system.

It is very important to deal with the underlying causes of endo, because estrogen dominance can lead to breast and uterine cancer.

[ralph]

As I posted above, endo is too much estrogen compared to progesterone.
I am a doc in the natural health field, and it really does annoy me that
traditional docs are still cutting females open and relying on surgery to treat symptoms when there are good ways to deal with this.

And mentioning the liver health is very good, too. There are so many chemicals in our environment now that mimic estrogen that the liver can get overloaded in its job of recycling estrogen. This then leads to estrogen dominance >> endo >> drags the thyroid down so energy can get pretty low, too.

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I went to the Center for Endometriosis Care (CEC) in Atlanta, Georgia. My surgery was done by Dr. Sinervo (there is also Dr. Albee). You can find it pretty easily on the web. There are a few (only a few) other doctors in the state that do excision surgery. There is one in California & one in New York (& a few more that I cannot remember right now). If you need to know I will find out for you & let you know. I have my hypothesis myself & I too think that too much yeast in the body has something to do with contributing to Endometriosis. I do feel though that you should have all the implants excised first & then go (immediately afterwards) on a yeast free diet. And, remember the reason (or at least this is my hypothesis) a person gets Endometriosis (they of course have several theories right now) is because of too much Estrogen. And, too much Estrogen is because of too little Progesterone. This is all regulated by the ovaries. Therefore, someone having all the problems could have an underlying problem with their adrenal gland, pituitary gland, thyroid gland, parathyroid gland, liver, etc. And of course you could be having problems with these glands too due to a yeast overload. Yeast can cause you to get rid of alot of your good bacteria which completely messes up your whole body & organs. I am not a doctor though. I am however trying my best to find out what causes Endometriosis. I do know they also think that most who have it have an immune system problem to begin with & might have other underlying diseases or disorders too. Another thing, I would advise (Unless you have to have it in rare circumstances) against the HRT for Endometriosis. I have heard really bad things about the side effects & after effects that they can cause. That is why I chose excision surgery instead of Hormone Replacement Therapy.

Thanks so much for the information. I'm in Florida. Do you know of anyone here?